First, I’m sorry Luna barked while I was being introduced. It annoyed me, too.
To the person who wrote in the chat, “Like children, you should have someone watching them while you work” — you’re right. I’ll do better next time.
To the person who commented, “Old saying ‘smokers and dog owners always disturbing others'” — touché.
And to the person who responded, “Loving the dog. So eager to participate” — what a positive reframe!
For those who weren’t there but are reading anyway:
I gave an online presentation on August 24, for the Mental Health Academy’s annual U.S. Suicide Prevention Summit. A blend of personal experience, clinical theory, and academic research, my talk was titled “Post-Traumatic Growth: Applications and Caveats for Clinical Practice.”
I’m highly distractible, so I hid the chat window. The conference organizer sent me the chat a few days ago (worry not, chatters, he anonymized it first). There were almost 1,700 comments, including dozens complaining about Luna barking, though some people didn’t mind.
Luckily, even without seeing the chat, I brought Luna into my study and she settled into quiet sleep.
Some in the chat wanted to see photos of Luna because they missed her quick cameo when I brought her into the room. So, for you, here she is in her ethereal cuteness:

A Little Levity for a Suicide Prevention Site
I admit, this post is partly an excuse to show off the precious cockapoo we added to our family in April. Also, to give the site’s readers a break from all the intense material about suicide.
Sometimes we need to lighten up. Just about every quarter, I teach a course at the University of Denver Graduate School of Social Work on suicide assessment and interventions. We meet for three hours each week. At first, the class met on a Monday at 8 a.m. Too intense for so early in the morning. Students requested levity, so I interspersed the Powerpoint slides with pet photos specifically to give students a brain break. They loved it, and I’ve done it ever since. Not only my pets, but their cats, dogs, turtles, rabbits, horses, and geckos, too.
Puppy photos here = same thing, different context.
Other things came up in the chat that I want to address. I can’t really respond to 2,700+ people dispersed throughout the world, especially since I no longer have the ability to chat online with everyone at once. But maybe some of you will see this post. So, here goes:
No, Depression Isn’t Always Lifelong
Several people in the chat objected to my saying depression is a lifelong condition. If you experienced depression with suicidal thoughts only one time – good! I envy you. Estimates vary by study, but many people with depression experience it multiple times throughout their life, with one review article calling major depression “predominantly highly recurrent.”
Depression isn’t a lifelong condition for everyone. I should’ve said it’s a lifelong condition for me.
That doesn’t mean I’m depressed every day of my life, only that ever since I was 12 years old, I’ve experienced an unrelenting cycle of remission and relapse. Fortunately, the remissions last much, much longer than the relapses. Years longer, in fact.
Is It Brave to Disclose Suicidal Experiences?
Many people commented how brave I am. “Extremely courageous.” “So incredibly brave.” “Your honesty and willingness to show this vulnerability make you a hero.”
Y’all, stop it some more. You’re so sweet.
But I also have mixed feelings about being called brave. On the one hand, yes, I was terrified to come out about my suicidal past almost 10 years ago, especially in a newspaper as big as The New York Times. An audience of millions sat outside that closet door. In the days leading up to my essay’s publication, I sometimes had difficulty breathing, so thick was my fear.
On the other hand, why should there be fear or courage? We don’t say someone’s brave for disclosing they had leukemia, or a kidney infection, or a broken shoulder. What is it about suicidality and other mental health challenges that makes one courageous for telling the truth?
Stigma, of course. That’s the way it is. Less so than in the past, I think, but still there’s a lot of unfair discrimination and judgment about mental health challenges. Especially when you’re a mental health professional, you’re expected to have it all together.
It takes a lot of energy to hide. I related – and relate still – very much to a passage by Kay Redfield Jamison, a psychologist who has written about her experiences with bipolar disorder and suicidality. In her memoir An Unquiet Mind, she stated:
I have had many concerns about writing a book that so explicitly describes my own attacks of mania, depression, and psychosis, as well as my problems acknowledging the need for ongoing medication… I have no idea what the long-term effects of discussing such issues so openly will be on my personal and professional life, but, whatever the consequences, they are bound to be better than continuing to be silent. I am tired of hiding, tired of misspent and knotted energies, tired of the hypocrisy, and tired of acting as though I have something to hide. One is what one is, and the dishonesty of hiding behind a degree, or a title, or any manner and collection of words, is still exactly that: dishonest. Necessary, perhaps, but dishonest.
I hope one day when someone talks about their suicidality, they’re not called brave. I hope one day when someone talks about their suicidality, they’re called normal – not normal, necessarily, for having been suicidal, but for talking about it.
A few more things…
I’ve heard from some of you in the audience via LinkedIn and email. Thanks so much. It’s surreal delivering an hour-long talk to only my computer screen in my messy study. Hearing from you makes the invisible audience feel real.
And, wow, you came from all over. From all over the U.S. and its territories, but also, from all over the world: Nigeria, Jamaica, Switzerland, Japan, Dubai, Hong Kong, Kenya, and Peru, to name just some of the places.
Thank you again for your lively engagement, even though I wasn’t aware of it at the time. It was an honor to present to you, with Luna finally snoozing silently in her crate beside me.

© 2025 Stacey Freedenthal. All Rights Reserved. Written for Speaking of Suicide.
I would never, even to my therapist, admit to overt suicidality. If I did I dont know what the consequences would be. (and mine is due to chronic pain for over 40 years that keeps me mostly housebound; even though the majority of the pain is caused by eye usage and eye movement, approximately 1/16th of my body.) Many years ago I was told at a pain clinic “We don’t want you to do it (suicide) but we’ll understand if you do. “Something happened soon after that made me unsure if my suicide would be because of the pain or a surgeon I was sent to who was truly crazy and made me feel the same. In that circumstance suicide was inappropriate, so I didn’t.
I am virtually alone in the world, family close by with almost no contact, though I have tried. A nephew in a state across the country with whom I am in contact thru emails and 2 times a year visits. I am in a local chorus that meets for about 3 mths 2 times a year. I love to sing yet dread it because I have to use my eyes to learn the music and words, and to follow the director,. It is a major pain event.
Suicide would be appropriate. The issue is will it work and that I cannot disclose to anybody.
BTW when I was young I think the 2 wonderful dogs we had, and the dog shows I went to, helped to keep me from suiciding or trying (at that time)
Lee,
I imagine in your isolation you’re quite lonely. I’m sorry, both about your being alone and about your being in chronic pain.
I wonder, do you have any pets now? Just curious. 🙂 That’s great your dogs protected you from acting on suicidal thoughts. I know that’s true for many people. In fact, I’m currently part of a research study that’s looking at pets as a reason for living among people with suicidal thoughts.
Thanks for sharing here!
Thank you for sharing of yourself, honestly and, yes, with courage. I agree that we must long for the day when courage is not needed to “come out” with our darkest realities, but that day is not here yet. We are still living with both the stigma and the victim-blaming that seems an indelible stain on the fabric of our social beings. I also applaud your ability to freely admit your mistakes. From my perspective, that, too, requires courage. I’ve learned to think of my own such admissions as good for the soul. That does make it easier. Finally, thank you for all your efforts to lower the appalling number of suicides and near-suicides that are an unfortunate part of our culture. I am grateful for your presence every day.
Linda,
What a wonderful message to receive. Thank you so much! It means a lot to me, knowing how long you’ve been engaged with this site. Thanks for all your participation here. 🙂
You’re more than welcome. It’s the least I can do in light of all you do for people plagued with suicidal thoughts.
Linda,
Thank you again!❤️❤️❤️
Lighten up! I’m for Luna. Perhaps next time, Luna can find a quiet place and comment after your presentation. Bark on, Luna, bark on!
Gary,
Thanks for that smile! In case you’re worried, she does indeed bark on. 🙂
Pets aside and mostly women carers, mood swings,financial hardships, lack of skills,cognitively imbalanced…all those pills and still my ills….but now it’s the arthritis & rheumatic for the years of coping by exercise oh yes that’s all I can accept to cheer me up ^ yes many ain’t got that are taking its toll. I feel hurt at your bearing the brunt of so many languishing souls…God bless you…God obviously being a figurative form of words/speech…it’s wonderful that you are representing this state of mind.
Anonymous,
Thanks so much for your kind words. I’m sorry you’re facing so many challenges. I appreciate your sharing here.
I didn’t get to catch your webinar but I would not have minded any so-called pet interruptions. Perhaps people are just being petty, pardon the pun.
But thank you for writing so vulnerably and candidly. I learn so much every time I listen to you or read what you write.
John,
Thank you! And I love the pun. 🙂